God Didn't Make Us To Hate Us With Rev. Lizzie

In this episode of Mess Makes Meaning, we welcome Reverend Lizzie McManus-Dail for a meaningful conversation about the journey many parents and caregivers are navigating: deconstructing and reconstructing faith while also caring for the spiritual lives of their children.

Reverend Lizzie, author of God Didn’t Make Us to Hate Us and vicar of Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, Texas, brings wisdom, honesty, and deep pastoral care to this complex and tender topic. Drawing from her work on social media and in ministry, she reflects on how we can begin to untangle toxic theology while also nurturing a vision of God that is rooted in love, joy, and grace.

Together, we explore what it looks like to hold space for both our own evolving faith and the spiritual questions of our children. Rev. Lizzie offers compassionate insight into how parents can walk this path with openness, integrity, and gentleness, even when the journey feels uncertain or layered with tension.

Throughout our conversation, she reminds us that God’s love is not something we must earn or fear, but something that invites us, and our children into freedom, curiosity, and belonging. Her reflections offer encouragement for anyone seeking to raise children in a way that is life-giving while also staying honest about their own spiritual growth.

Join us for this thoughtful and hope-filled episode as we consider what it means to deconstruct, reconstruct, and continue loving our children as they are along the way.